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I think we should (eventually) put the info on languages in a big table, in one section. The table would include one or more columns for characteristics. Then in another section, we could create another table of the characteristics, and then list the languages that have that characteristic simply by name, in other words a reverse mapping.
I have too many nitpicks to list here, but I'll mention one. I am not sure that "Loglandic" and "Loglan-influenced" groupings are too useful. In one sense, nearly all of these languages have some kind of influence from Loglan, either directly or through Lojban. In another sense, only Lojban was crazy enough to maintain such a complicated (but undeniably signature) system for forming base words, compounds and borrowings, making the two LoCCans a rather small closed family.
Maiku (talk) 20:10, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
I don't think that table would be of much use. We'd quickly run out of space — either for the characteristics or for the subject loglangs.
I agree that, on second thoughts, the ‘Loglandic’ category doesn't much sense. On the other hand, there's no useful way of grouping loglangs in such a way that ever bundles more than two together. (Loglan & Lojban, Gua\spi & Toaq, Xorban & X-1, ?). But if all we get by keeping the current categorization is a false sense of familiarity, then yes, I'd break it up into finer pieces.
~ uakci (talk) 20:20, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Because there is no obvious categorization system, the primary list should be alphabetical, unless we have a table with sortable columns. There can then be links to pages with proposed categorizations of loglangs and to a page discussing the pros and cons of these categorizations. I think the categorization on the page as it currently is is to be deprecated, but discussion of its pros and cons is better located in a permanent discussion of classification rather than in the discussion section of this page. And (talk)
- We can try a few things, but I like the idea of a sortable table. I am going to put together a sortable table a little later this morning. By the way did you see the first draft of my Portal page? Maiku (talk) 13:39, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
I created a Table_of_loglangs_and_quasi-loglangs. Maiku (talk) 15:06, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Portal excellent. Can we have a link to it in the side bar? In due course "Main Page" will need more work. Will "loglangs.org" point to the Portal page?
"Table of loglangs" also excellent. My initial comments on it are in the Discussion to that page.
- In the Discord #projects channel, I proposed (and uakci agreed) making the Portal page, in effect, the main page of the wiki and therefore loglangs.org/ would point directly to it. However, for consistency, loglangs.org is currently redirecting to logical-languages.org/ (still pointing to the same page). By the way, sorry that the conversation spreads across multiple platforms. Some of us are wont to put general comments and minor comments on Discord. Discussions for specific Wiki pages should be kept on the Wiki (though that doesn't always happen). Maiku (talk) 12:35, 9 April 2020 (UTC)