Talk:Liva

The template looks great so far! Eventually templates will have their own pages, I assume. I have a few suggestions:

• Name should be Section 1.1, IMO, loosely following Wikipedian practice.
• Syllables and phonotactics overlap and could be combined in some articles, if not this one.
• Some languages will need a formal discussion of the underlying logic; this is not completely contained within syntax but could fall under the Syntax section, or a broader Semantics section, or could be its own section.
• Every language needs a Pragmatics section as much as it needs a Prosody section. Isn't "self-segregation strategy" part of Morphology? Some languages will definitely need a Criticism section or subsection; others could have a broader Reception section.
• Would prefer "References" over "Sources," following what seems to be more common on Wikipedia.

Selguha (talk) 19:16, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Replies to above:

• I am okay with putting the name first.
• Syllables could be considered an aspect of phonotactics, but I feel syllable structure is interesting and important enough to merit its own equal-level section.
• Semantics (which I think would include the logic) and pragmatics sections are good ideas, though I fear rather few loglangs have explicitly defined pragmatics. Certainly it can be included whenever the pragmatics can in fact be known.
• Self-segregation can be discussed at both morphological and syntactic levels -- for example Lojban has terminators. IMHO SS is also important and interesting in its own right, from loglangers' POV, and merits a section under Design.
• Wikipedia is not entirely uniform in how it handles these things, but at least some articles there have a "Sources" section to contain the general bibliographical list (which should always appear in LLWiki articles that have sources), and a "References" section to contain specific footnotes (which I do not think we need to be super diligent about, at least to get our first drafts done). The Sources section must be complete, but I would generally leave footnotes for future polishing work, and even then only footnote items that come from special knowledge. Just my 2 cents. In addition, some articles will need an "External Links" section to list things not in sources, but Liva does not have any such items.

Maiku (talk) 00:35, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

By the way, this is somewhat relevant to our current discussion: Meta:Language_description_template Maiku (talk) 00:39, 30 April 2020 (UTC)